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In Reply to: Re: True Story about Mind Control posted by S. Crt.s on January 19, 2007 at 23:53:35:
"Do you say all that knowing how empty your words are"
-- Why do you say my words are empty? What makes them empty? Where have I said your feelings or your experience was or your pain was not valid?
I don't understand on what basis you judge me.
You don't know me and I am an individual who cares a great deal about people and animals too for that matter. Does it take away from your pain to say that people that were recruited as youth suffered too, or were used and abused too?
I am not saying that in answering your pain. I said that all deserved recovery and then wrote more about that but it was in regards to a post about a subject that was not starting out as SG pain only.
At least, if it was I was not aware that it was.
", or have you just missed any discussion of why so many of us who were severely sexually abused as children do not have a prayer of prosecuting?"
--No. not at all. I realize that it is very difficult to prosecute offenses from the past, for many reasons. I wish you could or that you could confront and get what you need from the people that hurt you. I wish I had never gotten into the family but at least I did get out pretty early and got my kids all out too. That was before camps. Before the worst things.
I was fortunate to do that when I did.
"Not a prayer at all. No wonder we pray little."
--Don't know what to say here. I haven't been religious for decades. Neither are my children.
"We are the only ones who pay while your friends slink away."
--My "friends"? Who are my friends supposed to be? I don't even have friends that were ever in the family. I have been out for over twenty years. The people I know at the boards I know only from what they post at the boards. Why do you seem so angry at me? Have I done something to you personally?
Yes I was in the family and was recruited as a teen. Yes when FFing was introduced I thought I was weak and wrong for not going with the flow and I did avoid it because I was molested as a child too. I do know how that feels. I never did that to anyone in the family and I got out around the time that children were being sexualized, first stages. I suppose it triggered me royally and I left believing God was going to cause our plane to crash but it was better than staying in the hell of the family.
"There is no god who cares one whit. It will rain on Mother Teresa. It will rain on der Fuhrer. And on Auntie Taberah."
--Well, I agree with you there-that good things happen to people like Hitler or Maria. I don't believe, though, that people don't care. I think a lot of people care about the horrible things that happened in the Family to you and to others and plenty of people do care about your generation and what happened to them.
Regarding the bible quotes I can't really discuss what I don't believe in. I can't speak for any God or quote any scripture but I do admire people like Mother Theresa and groups like Doctors Without Borders.
Looking back, I know that there were things that happened that were wrong but didn't know the full depth of it until I got out.
I got dealt with while in the family for taking my kids out of a room where someone who had been around Berg before being demoted and sent to the outer limits (small town shamer-ville home)decided to teach people how to have a communion. I was prophesied over and told that I was harming my kids by taking them away and threatened via prophecy that god could kill me for my resistance- even got the good ole millstone verse because I didn't get with the program. Then I was abandoned with my kids in a foreign country. I was on the outskirts of the family until I left.
I have written affadavits about what I did know about to help people who have left even though they are not as much worth as people who have left much more recently.
I reported what I knew was occuring in the family at the time I left, in 82, and there was nothing that could be done with the info except that it verified what was thought about the cult at the time I out.
I have offered my time to try and seek resources for people who want to leave or need help with other issues and with no request for anything in return or any profit off of it at all.
Why are you so angry towards me? What did I say that has offended you so?
Apparently I have said something that you took to be discounting to you or you have lumped me into a big bucket of being as bad as Berg himself just because when I was a teen escaping an abusive family I got sucked into a cult that seemed safe.
