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In Reply to: This is not about you posted by Coordinator #1 on February 07, 2004 at 23:30:00:
"Some aspects of this issue were public, others were not, as Curious stated so from the beginning. "
"Curious" is possibly one of your cronies. One of the anonymous people who get to say anything, and it's no big deal. Because you guys have your own private club, and try to run this board as an extension of it.
If any of it was private, and Curious was so in on what was and wasn't private, then Curious should have shut up, and just let me answer the simple question of if I knew Anneke or not, and left it at that. EOT.
"A public discussion where you speculate what is someone's mind, and try to help speak on behalf a friend is one thing. "
I never speculated on what was on Anneke's mind. I saw the same post you did, that she fet that she had done the wrong thing, and was no longer in relationship with Grant or people at FCF.
To say that I tried to help speak on behalf of Anneke is a lie. You keep telling that lie over and over again. I've corrected you before, and you continue that falsehood regardless.
I continually said that I was not speaking for Anneke and I was not acting as her "Agent". You know that.
"When that person has taken the step of showing up and apologizing, and you're still in there chiming in predicting bandwidth overload, witch burning"
Another lie. I talked about witch burning and bandwidth overload BEFORE the apology. I'm not "still in there chiming in predicting" that. Quit telling lies.
"I wonder what you gain from constantly trying to make us spend energy answering to you, when we should be settling things with Anneke when she's apologized"
I've repeatedly complained that my messages are reposted, out of context at the top of the board. It has happend no less than three times over the last few days. I've offered to stop, more than once yesterday. But, the baiting continues. It hasn't stopped because you won't let it stop, and I won't let your innacurate statements stand as the last word in the matter.
All Jane did was put in a simple compliment to Anneke for apologizing. You jumped all over it.
Again, you could have left it alone, but you didn't. You still haven't acknowledged my question about her message that dissapeared from the board. I'll ask you again, did you or one of the other Coordinators delete it?
"There is discussable and there is overbearing self-importance"
I'll say. Just because you know how to put up a website doesn't mean you can lie about people and events and they just have to sit there and take it.
I've always been up front about who I am. Where I work, what I do, and who I know. You are one of perhaps four anonymous "Coordinators" who have taken turns provoking and insulting me and my wife. It is a cowardly way to operate.
"Your efforts to bring about a dialog and reconciliation (assuming those were your motives in putting so much of your time in this) have reached critical mass, and you still don't know how to let go and let nature run its course. "
If you are so good at that, then why didn't you all just leave me alone when I said I was done? Why continue to repost my messages? Why continue the questions? Why continue to provoke?
"Neither you nor Jane own this problem."
No, but when it was placed on this public board, open to any person with access to the Internet, it became up for discussion. You and others continued it right along with me.
"It wasn't about you. She didn't ask Grant to sue you."
No, but when it was placed here for public discussion, I had a right to discuss it. If it wasn't something to be discussed it should have been removed. Curious should have been warned, and it should have been over.
"You don't get to dictate what I should or shouldn't do."
But, you get to dictate what I should write and think? And when I agree to stop, it's okay to continue to provoke me and my wife, until we respond to the provocation, then act like we are just talking into a vacuum?
"I own my own reaction."
Me too. But, apparently, I'm only allowed to have reactions that you agree with. I happen to think that you deleted one of Janes messages simply because you didn't agree with it.
"If I accept or don't accept this based on something I share or don't make public, that is my prerogative. And from the oustide looking in, if you choose to speculate that it's due to a serious flaw in my character, that's yours. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. "
Me either. Just quit lying, and quit stiring the pot and then act like I'm coming up with all of this all by myself. Do you realize that I have not started a single thread here? Everything I have written has been a reply. Virtually every message has been to someone that asked me a question, or make a comment about a reply I made to another message.
My observations from yesterday made it very difficult for Coordinators from this board to attack Anneke when she did apologize. I know that must be frustrating. But, the way to deal with it isn't to blame it on me and Jane, take things out of context, state that things happened in different sequence than they did, and to lie.
