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In Reply to: Re: Life and death posted by Thinker on November 28, 2009 at 06:21:28:
..."L. and d."...big subject...I like it when Jesus compares death with sleep at times...getting of course ridicule...by "normal"
people.I like it, when I am told, that certain people have this blissful face, when they are on the verge of passing over.I wasn't yet present at any person's point of death....I think it's a great service to accompany people in such a time of their life.But I rather am alone...no human being around...and having then still faith in Jesus Christ than the other way around: lots of people trying to support me and no faith in Christ.
I commend you for that visiting-service you did...it seems you know more than one celebrity in
your present life??!
If such "closeness" was also normal in your life prior to TF or within TF, weren't you one of those people TF didn't want to loose easily??In my case nobody seemed to care too much LOL...although I must say I never understood, why they made a big fuss over anybody...if someone wanted to leave, then he/she had pondered about it before & you just let him/her go, actually that was standard policy...why they later made all this big fume and stink about SGAs not wanting to stay...I still don't get...one of these contradictory phases of TF.
At the funeral there was also a "male threesome"...my parents treated them with more respect, than probably I did.There is then this battle in me about being loving and polite and also to heed pauline warnings...wishing, I could address that, having the courage, the moment to do so.
One of them had jut a heavy operation and chemotherapy behind him for a very nasty form of cancer and he could barely stand on his feet...I think he's catholic by birth and he was seemingly more moved at the little whole for the urn...then I was.It seemed like very trying times for himself...memories also...we didn't have the opportunity to exchange some words besides me thanking their appearance...he had to leave having to attend an appointment for another therapy scheduled.
Although my parents were much more conservative, than me at my very liberal times of TF (& now I am ashamed of that)..yet they were liberal in their "liking"/loving just the people itself.I also have that ability, but more than them I also see the need to come clean with the requirements of the Creator and not just doing as I please...in TF I thought it was high form of altruism (FFing etc...when as a matter of fact it was immoral), so now I think to have a better grasp of that being really required of us/me.
on the other hand I have my problems, getting my chance to "prach"/talk deeply to my atheistic/agnostic relatives..since things seem to go so well in their life and yet there is no desire, visible/tangeable sign on their part to discuss matters beyond the earthly limited realm.Living here just for @ 90 years and then sinking into none-existance??Taking things as they come, including the part of death and afterward.
It reminds me of the scarey drive I had in one of these stretched taxis in Israel, a year before I joined.The driver...may be Palestinian, overcame/surpassed another vehicle in a curve, also being steep and he had know way of "seeing" what is beyond the curve and hill...I guess he went by "feeling", guts..."experience"...dare-devil-driving...whatever..I was shrinking in my seat.