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In Reply to: Re: Peacemakers posted by Farmer on November 19, 2009 at 03:12:51:
Farmer, your two questions are indeed important: what is your goal/incentive for a possible dialogue, what would you like to achieve?
We must be careful here with our assumptions. You assume I want a dialogue when in reality all I want is to say that there are some people willing to have a dialogue ...and that you (Mari and Peter) refuse.
Why do I want to do that? Because many years ago Peter and his people organized a meeting he attended with the condition of not being asked about certain difficult issues. Was that a dialogue?
So, why do I want to do this? Because I am sure that those of the newer generations who left have done so for the same reasons many of us also left. And I am sure they are having a difficult time.
What I am trying to do is to raise my voice even if I am alone to ask for and answer, even if it never comes. We know they monitor this board and they know you and I are talking about this. I feel it is better to do it here, where they don't have control.
And my question to them is the same thing that I would like to achieve (your second question): Do you want a dialogue? A dialogue instead of what have been doing, dancing around about how to relate to us, exmembers. But that is why I said it is not about us (ll exmembers) but only about some of the exmembers, those who happen to be their children.
I applaud that. That is something that Jesus told them to do a long time ago, and not only about their children, but that they refuse to do then. Now it is too late but they can salvage something as long as they include all of the people they once were responsible for, otherwise the Lord will come in to solve the horrible mess they have been creating, and their end (of Maria, Peter, and their willing accomplices) will be terrible.
Yes. we could be their strongest supporters but only if they show signs of being sincere, open and clear. We may not believe now what they believe but they should be as free as we are to pursue our own straight and narrow path.
All they need to have is good faith, which they have never shown to us because they fear we are going to expose them. How different is that from what the pharisees do?
They see some of us as detractors because we have asked questions about our beliefs when we used to believe like they did. Yes, our own beliefs were the same but they didn't like us asking questions when it is one of the most honorable things a person can do.
And they didn't respond well.
We were naive and were taken advantage of but we got healed from our blindness and they must now come out with sincerity, openness and clarity.
This is a chance to them to respond well. That is what I seek.
Peace