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In Reply to: Re: To the person attempting to post as "ltx" etc. posted by AndyNoc on September 03, 2009 at 04:31:00:
You wrote: "Oh, and one more thing that bothers me: it doesn't seem to concern you that there is a TFI home abusing public resources and defrauding the public which is quite criminal, but it's somehow all just very negotiable to you. Jay, is that you?" Should it concern (us)? If you are concerned that's fine but why should it bother you that someone else is not concerned?
There were specific reasons why it bothered me. But to answer specifically why, in what context, I would have to show the contents of the posts in question. And since I am not going to do that, I can only answer generally.
Anything along the continuum, from proactive campaigning to apathy, is everyone's own right. People should be concerned only with whatever they take upon themselves to be concerned about. Having said that, in my opinion, any member of the public who is aware of fraudulent practices by a charity org would better serve the interests of their own community and/or society at large, if they did something about it rather than look the other way.
If there are any attachable "should's" to matters of charitable funds obtained from the public, then those who "should" take it upon themslves to be concerned include donors who give away their money, directly or indirectly, to any charitable organizations, including but not limited to fraudulent ones. They really "should" know where their money is going and how it is really being spent. Scrutiny by donors helps to "keep" charities honest.
The way I see it, if we are paying taxes, and we see someone is benefitting from them fraudulently, we have a right to be concerned, and maybe even "ought" to be concerned. But every reaction from proactive concern to apathy still remains an individual choice.
Why do you continue to hold TFI to a higher standard than almost any other outfit on this planet? Have you not yet realized that TFI *central tenets* are, have always been and (except for a miracle of God) will always continue to operate just like in any other selfserving collection of people? There are individual exceptions of course.
These are not my standards, and they are not higher than for any other charity or missionary group or organization.
The Family International is really just a current pseudonym for the Children of God, and its leaders are responsible for a series of crimes still unredressed. Its representatives have proven to practice a policy of lying under oath in accordance with their "deceivers yet true" doctrine. It has institutionalized child abuse, etc, etc. I could go on and on.
The FCF has not achieved the genuine transparency as outlined by the BBB (Better Business Bureau) and is therefore not endorsed or even recommendable as a charity. I urge you to look into this for yourself.
There still remains a big difference between legitimate and fraudulent charities/orgs. Legitimate charities are transparent through and through. They do not claim to be independent entities while serving a shadow organization with a secret agenda. Right from the the onset, from the very act of application and registration for the establishment of the Family Care Foundation and numerous other front organizations as entities, false declarations were made. The organizations are affiliated with, and their very formation was for, serving the edicts of another separate organization (albeit an illegal, unregistered entity with very questionable practices and history), but they declared themselves free of any such external ties. An elaborate system of fakely-independent organizations funneling off money to each other while writing them off as expenses is normally called "money laundering."
The FCF and other TFI front orgs, through the practice of concealing their true identity and agenda, may insinuate themselves into the company of other legitimate orgs, but they are not endorsed by any who know who they really are. I urge you to check these facts for yourself.
Not only is the FCF is not endorsed by any legitimate fellow charities, TFI along with its numerous fronts are under investigation by the FBI wherever its jurisdiction reaches.
