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In Reply to: Re: Glad it was just a test posted by Detractor on October 01, 2009 at 16:08:49:
Unfortunately the respective article is only in German...I read the article first at lunchbreak during worktime, where the tabloid newspaper is read by a majority of workers & often I took an edition for reference-sake home.Only the last 3 links are in English...but I am sure there are many more else.The first link is the column of journalist Wagner...which is, to my uderstanding, a daily column..."post/mail from Wagner".If need be, I could roughly translate it...unfortunately they don't have the online version of the last page of the 30.9.2009 newsp.-edition
which titled "The rape-file Polanski"...I have no idea, where they got the dialogue between the state atorney and the victim from...that is, very incriminating/delicate excerpts (cause I read, that the files can't be traced, can't be found)...point though is, Wagner comments on it in the very same edition.What disturbs even more is, that at the right side of the Polanski article, there is a little news-clip about Kylie & Danniee Minogue about their participation in a castingshow...but the title is of all things: "Not without my sister" (I have both the English and the German book of C. Jones et al. ...the German edition titles though: not without my sisters...plural)....very strange coincidence
The details there make you feel very much for the victim/Samantha Geimer...what else... Polanski has committed a crime and the details involved seem very complex (French affair...being a French national...born in Paris).That the victim meanwhile has forgiven him is very honourable, it's not clear though, how much or if at all money-payments were involved.
Personally from having read a lot in that newspaper over the years...I think the paper is definetely philo-semitic (stupid term...I think...that's where I continue to fuzz about the bad choice/misleading/ambivalent etymology...Arabs are also semitic e.g.) or pro-jewish (Many German Jews having once in a while a column there).Since TF I made again a turn around and am myself more pro Jewish than in years before...though my sympathy is not a blank cheque...it's interesting that in the midst of all the upcoming sympathies & release-requests of fellowmen/woman of the film-scene there are also critical voices, also of Jews, for example of Daniel Cohn-Bendit...member of the European-parliament...though I haven't read his view yet...I just got that bit of wikipedia.
Now Wagner argues, that for 32 years Polanski behaved well, the victim has forgiven him...Polanski's mother (raised Catholic though, if I got that right), pregnant, was killed in Auschwitz...his father being a Jew...made him (Roman P.) in the eyes of the Nazis anyway Jewish...though for the strict jewish descendence-codex, I understood, the ethnical/religious belonging of the mother counts!?Whatever...then the tragic fate of Sharon Tate...his wife...all that makes Wagner sympathetic of Polanski and he "demands" grace/clemency for him...not because he is a famous director...because he has suffered enough....he says.
He also muses/argues: "We must forgive.Forgiveness is a cultural treasure.Without forgiveness society can't function.Jurictically, apparently, one can't forgive.....Where is our culture of forgiveness, the culture of grace?Juristically it might be alright, but humanly not"
When I read that, I thought to write him an email with some "heavy-wording"...at times he appears as a Christian, which he might be...don't know.However he scarerily, in a naive way mixes up law/law enforcement and it's duties, society at large, Christian/non-Christian and the very personal commitments, seperation of state and church/religion...secularity (for which I am ) and the forgiveness on a personal level...interacting either within a church community or at large with fellow believers & with others we generally come across...critical point: if the "law agents" don't learn about it. (Some exploit that via blackmailing etc.)
I felt his unnecessary "hypersympathy" so "stupid", that I fumed...from what I understood now is, that the deed in itself would have come under the statute of limitation ( 9 years???)...but since he fled before being sentenced, the whole thing is not a statute-barred crime.
Morally I think he also took marriage commitments lightly and later his attraction to younger actrices was also quite apparent....although nobody yet claims, from what I read, that minors were involved then...but one might wonder a bit about N.Kinski (Tess)...rumours persist, that in that business you only make it to the top, by "offering some favours"...probably true.
So it's stupid to ask for a culture of forgiveness...simply because not the whole world...not even the Western one, follows the Christian forgiveness-codex....decades back I wondered about it myself; but you can't ask everyone to please behave very Christian...mountain-sermon-like....that'd be altogether a total different world...true...but very far from reality...even from prophecy.
Last not least, it reminds me of TF and the rape of many SGAs....sad to say...the Manson-clan also understood itself as a family...if I got that right.
So for me a very lame, half-baked, semi-Christian commentary....to me sickening.
