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In Reply to: Re: Charming... posted by Farmer on July 12, 2009 at 15:41:11:
I do expect more from them: some basic honesty and decency. I am tired of their games and wish they could be upfront about where they're coming from rather than pretend they're people/something they're not. I mean we can see through it anyway. We're not idiots. We've been in the group too. We know their lingo, style and thinking, and we can spot them without much effort. Why not get real so we can discuss something real. Why throw accusations of document fraud at us when that is what they do for a living, with their false educational certifications, fake identity papers and fake declarations on immigration forms, fake charities, fake tax write-offs, fake "costs," etc?
You wouldn't believe the probes we get behind the scenes, some of the the fake emails, etc.
That they see things differently, that they have beliefs we don't share, that's not a problem. Nobody is trying to control what they believe. What I have a problem with is the dishonesty, the deceit, the defrauding of the public, thecover up of past/present crimes, the diversion of resources meant for genuine relief work to financially and materially support con artists, liars and fakers.