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In Reply to: Re: Re:Haider ...this guy posted by il Padrino on October 15, 2008 at 07:12:00:
Please do get a few things straight,... first off, Observer kind of "critisized" me, F A R M E R, for bringing up the Haider intro stuff...I explained it thoroughly, how I got some links from a website, I even now gave the link... you're welcome to wade yourself through all the numerous posts there...my issue was not Haider...you intend to make it one??I stated, that my opinions, political, were never in my lifetime, before TF or afterwards close to the views of Haider, if anything I had a tilt to the left or being greenish...
Now mind you Haider is A U S T R I A N...I happen to be German...may be no difference to you...some Germans get insulted by getting mixed up with Austrians, viceversa...so I don't know, why you lump that altogether...I am not at all into this Germanic race thing in case you care to know....
Haider has been an old political stud, being on the political scene for very long...sorry, please get at least his career a bit straighter:
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As far as the pensions are concerned, I give you a quick birds eye view: the Turks pay - if labourers & not selfemployed - the same percentage into the statepensionfund as all the others, be they Italian immigrants, Germans, ethnic German Russians...& Turks...by the way lots of Turks are actually ethnically Kurds & I think we have the highest percentage of Turks living abroad...great ...World record I think, if not percentage-wise, then in absolute numbers & areawise the most in Berlin...but what has that to do with the pension system?...you know what, there was a time, when Turks could take mostly in cash their pension & move back to Turkey, in older days...plenty live therefore there a very comfortable life...& guess what, I pay now for the old Turks who are now in pension in Germany or elsewhere...there are plenty of foreigners in Germany who hate the Germans and otherwise there is, sad to say, still/always the ugly nazistic German...there was a scandal of some foreign youths brutally assaulting an old German man, who reminded them to not smoke in the Munic tube...probably it was the way he said it, what got them enraged out of their mind...hate has been on both sides & gets fueled by people, may be like Haider...I know too little about him...but I get the impression you know even less.It is a known fact, that countries with very low birthrate, plus tight immigration (pls. google Japan about that problem) face probably economic problems in the future...plus immigration happens to be quite tight in Australia & Canada, they are so selective there, quite a scream...in Germany you have quite a few Russians pretending to have German ancestors and therefore got visa permit & residency...some look as Russian as you can get...anyway not my top subject.
If you're familiar with the situation in Italy then pls. tell me how satisfied the Italiens are for all the "boat people" who get stranded by the hundreds or thousands every year at the beautiful shores of Italy, notably first on the tiny Italian island of Lampedusa.
Someone has to foot the bills, what's your stance on the Italian politicians like Fini & Bossi?
In France you have Le Pen & in Holland, which happened to be ultra liberal towards foreigners they have had these 2 politically motivated killings:
And something you are aware of I presume, you can also exploit the social system of any country as that did happen...be it by foreigners or locals/residents...
