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In Reply to: My experience is like I described posted by Thinker on August 10, 2007 at 11:06:55:
Well, I touched some of the syndrome-stuff(Stockholm) or whatever from a different angle in my response to General Public...as the findings/research of neuroscience seems to go much into the deterministic direction/ field.
Was I then somehow determined to join?As much as to leave?.... a bit to too deep for the moment to get dogmatic about it...
Also from the response of Babe it seems no one wants to join a cult for what it's really like, if really thought over.But things in TF got revealed one by one, letter by letter, as we read them & had to agree on them.I had so many people around me who left one by one TF & n o one got hindered by anyone.I was on a faith-trip with a brother & he was litnessing on the other street-side...but after some time he disappeared...he was "younger in faith" & I felt sad about it, somehow that I feailed...anyway, just to say, you could have your way out & it happened often around me, people leaving for various reasons.
I remember this English disciple who got to listen to tapes for the whole day...it was that he
had agreed on that...he left anyway.
I was in the same home as the mother of one of the SGs who co-wrote the book...I tink she had heavy doubts one day about salvation or something.
It was "dealt with" TF-style...but don't know the details...before people leave, they have very heavy doubts or problems with TF's lifestyle.
Was I immediately totally offended by the King Arthur series?I thought of it as something very altruisic.As I wasn't mated at that time, it was anyway beyond my experiences. Strange, in the home I joined, there was a woman/girl/sister, who was apparently a Christian before...not a radical one...as we preferred to compare...she even knew my best school-friend, who studied to become a pastor.
Did she get offended while reading the letters?
We called it bottlebreaking.Whatever of our consciousness was left or there to begin with, got
overrun by "smart" arguments in the letters.For someone with a very good consciousness I surmise, it wouldn't have been possible.We didn't have the
education, the experience, to counter that effectively.So to a degree I understand our failure...nevertheless I was troubled later about all my failures in TF.For me counts the remorse-part of anyone who has left ...(you could also just leave for economic reasons or not to disappoint your parents etc.)...in that I became stronger than TF with all their deception.I am not morally perfect now, but I have much more peace about my actions, than before.The lack of peace in many situations were considered a bout of the enemy, when I consider them nowadays just often the intervening of my consciousness.
So I agree with you to a big extent...all of us have burned their bridges by joining...but the way back into the system was "always" possible.I have annoyed my parents plenty, but it was them who later helped tremendously...it was hard to crawl back to a lifestyle, you had ridiculed, looked down on before or just used.If it took you longer to leave, then may be you had some bigger obstacles in the way.When we didn't like the lifestyle of TF in Madras 1989 we just informed the leaders & it was no big deal at all...it wasn't apparently a huge loss for them anyway...they talked us into leaving the main amount of the landing funds & off we were to our single "home" situation...TRF-supporters or whatever we were called...
May be as I had been "slipping", sliddering into TF & I left almost likewise.I left, because I heavily disliked the comboing of the kids.
Later it was a dear Christian friend...who never had joined (I admire her for that)...who told me once, that she had prayed about it, whether or not Berg being the endtime David & the result was that he wasn't(prior to 1993 also).
For me that was a relief & it took some time to sink in, that was close to blasphemy in those days.
