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In Reply to: Phoebes Death found from newdaynews posted by Swede on July 04, 2007 at 08:51:18:
Jereboam, American died in Europe was extremely ill before being dumped and then found dead.
Phoebe was Norwegian and from Bergen. I knew her way before music with meaning and I sang with her at the Denmark Poorboy Club. Back then she was not drawn into berg's inner circle or one of his pet projects yet.
I was stunned to read what happened to her. I know I once very nearly died in TF from infection and got blood poisoning. I really should have died but strongly suggested- and suggestions were "orders", to go by faith.
When pregnant and going to a "pioneer field", Mother Eve asked me if I had the faith for having the baby there because, she said as she was pointing out a woman that heard her who was a leader in Scandinavia- "she" didn't have the faith and her baby died at childbirth.
So that nameless unknown baby can be added to the list. Wonder how many of those there were?
How sad.
> Maria's and Peter's tactics in "explaining" things to
> TF include minimizing these major deaths and suicides as merely
> rare isolated incidents. They compare the deaths and suicides in
> TF to society at large and sat that the percentage is
> smaller.
> Is that supposed to be to create good PR for TF? "If you
> join TF, we promise that there will only be a 5% suicide rate in
> your family instead of the 10% rate in society, and you will
> have less problems than in society."
> IF that is supposed to be some kind of a sales pitch, they are
> leaving the possibility open for MORE things to happen, and
> accept these things as the Will of God.
> Phoebe's death wasn't just an isolated incident. It is the
> common pattern of Family policy and practice!
> There were other deaths in TF that were also the direct cause of
> neglect of the shepherds, that were attributed toor blamed on
> the victim themselves.
> Abner (TSC accident?)
> Aaron Berg - Suicide
> Abe Thai (a.k.a. Thai Abe), of Thai Christina - age late 30's,
> brain tumor
> Abe (son of Phoenix, Japan Family leader, suicide in Osaka)
> Amore (of John) - auto accident
> Andrew (of Mercy) - age 46, cancer, died in 2000
> Azotus - drowning? died in late 70s
> Baby Benjamin (of Mateo and Belen) - died at 7 mths of measles
> Clara (Peruvian) - auto accident in Bolivia
> David (of Stephen and Lisa) - age 13, died 12th of December,
> 2000 of typhoid and malaria in Liberia
> David (of Paul and Margie) Fell of of a building
> Flor (of Richard) - cancer, died in São Paulo
> Elizabeth Grey - age 70's (She was a hard worker)
> Heidi (of Peter) - age 39, died 3rd September, 1995 of cancer
> Jeremiah Singer (Suicide)
> Jesse Woodsman of St. John, VI - died in late 70's
> Jesse (Japanese died of a sudden sickness in Japan)
> Jonadab (of Praise)
> Jonathan David (Josh) Lykins
> Joy (of Andrew) - died 12th May 2001, cancer
> Joy (of Mark) - died in 1996
> Lara (of Gath)
> Liberty - died in 1994 of brain haemorrhage, after prolonged and
> unattended symptoms of migraine headaches, incoherence &
> personality changes
> Marko (Japanese, died of a sudden sickness in China)
> Mariko (5) Japanese of Elisha and Liberty, died of complications
> after being burned in car where she was left and found matches,
> lit one and caught her dress on fire)
> Maria Child (Japanese, former Pacro secretary ,died of suicide
> in Tokyo)
> Tio, (Son of Maria child and Silas, formerly Jericho, suicide)
> Maria Bauer - Puerto Rican, died age 35 after 6 years of illness
> Marina (German, died in Japan of Cancer)
> Marie Claire(of Samuel and Heidi) - died at age 13 from bone
> cancer
> Mark Hungarian (of Faithy) - died at age 27, hit by car
> Mercy - car accident
> Michelle (of Gloria) - died at age 3
> Moises (de Luz) - died on 11th July, 2001
> Nahum (of Davida)
> Nahum Drummer
> Nina (of Pablo) - died on 17th OCtober, 1999, at age 39,
> leukemia
> Pablo (of Nina) - died on 11th of August, 1995, following
> refusal of treatment for several weeks
> Peter Puppet - died in 80's of cancer
> Phoebe Swiss - died in 1999, age early 30's
> Piper, Rose and Sean Simmons - auto accident in Siberia?
> Rejoice of George - died on 2nd February, 2002, age 34 of a
> hemorrhage
> Rejoice (of Australian Johnathan died of a sudden sickness in
> Japan)
> Sharon (of Jonathan) - died 1985 of cancer
> Sheba Bear - died in 70's of skin cancer (Did not get treatment)
> Shuly Bolivar - died at age 18 from Lupus (Was not given
> treatment)
> Sho David (Japanese died at 14 of suicide jumping from a
> department store building in Chiba, Japan,)
> Vanessa Rose (of Amber and Stephen) - died at age 9 mths
> At TSC, a sister about 18 years old, died after refusing
> medication for a life-long heart condition, after getting the
> classes on faith
> At TSC, a black brother from Dallas, from drowning. Berg was
> present at the time.
> In Europe, brother of Yuri, died from drowning?, caused by
> floods while sleeping in his tent
> In Queretaro, Mexico, Mexican sister Lystra was hit by a car.
> In South Africa, Apollos David (of German Brunette), died of
> Malaria while doing missionary work in South Africa
> There are probably other recent ones we haven't heard of yet,
> but there is also Ricky and Angela, of course,
> And the middle ages brother in the States who died of heart
> complications shortly after the Christmas push in which he had
> been out daily long hours selling CDs and other Family tools.
> To many "Isolated incidents" to be a coincidence.
> These deaths and others were all pretty much related, even the
> Cancers, possibly from eating provisioned food for years and
> having a low standard of living.
> Most of these deaths were unnecessary and could have been
> prevented or treated, but TF is taught not to look at it that
> way.
> The Family is taught by the teachings of Berg, to look at all of
> these deaths as God's Will, and be happy that they are all in
> heaven now, don't feel sorry for them , because God took them.
> Well, you can't convince ME that God took them. As far as I am
> concerned, because of Berg's occult involvements,
> and agreements he made with Satan, and weird demonic spirit
> guides, the devil took them, as he is the angel of death, not
> God.
> Berg's letters about how wonderful death is gave TF the mind set
> that those who die in service to God in TF get a special place
> in heaven and special honors. This is similar to the doctrine of
> Islam, which states that those who die in service to Allah will
> go straight to heaven, and enjoy eternal pleasures and glory.
> No wonder TF members haven't risen up questioning these deaths.
> They just accept them as God's Will!!!
> Well, somebody should let them know. Also, the new born younger
