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In Reply to: Re: True Story about Mind Control posted by S. Crt.s on January 19, 2007 at 03:09:06:
I think that if someone sexually abused or severely abused a child in the Family they would do well to do everything they can to contact that child and make reparations or face prosecution if the person who was a child wants to go that route.
For people who fell into the party line on how to discipline who now believe corporal punishment was wrong and believe that some of the doctrines that were followed, like spanking until a child quits crying, it's good to say that looking back that was wrong, felt wrong and was regretted and apologize directly where possible and without expectation of being forgiven.
When I was a child I was beaten severely with a belt and buckle, hair pulled, shaken, slapped,kicked and so on. In that day and time, my parents position in law enforcement bodies or work with government kept them from facing any repercussions. Also at that time, there weren't many protections in place as long as the child had a decent home, food and financial support. People rarely were prosecuted in that time.
Nowadays, however, had they done that to me they could still have used their jobs as protection but most likely they would go through some sort of counseling, pay fines, might get charged with abuse. I know that current punishments vary by state and by whomever takes the case.
When I left the family, corporal punishment was still allowed in schools and you had to sign papers to make it where your kids were exempt and parents and children were often sort of penalized for that because the alternative was for the kid to be put out of school for three to five days. A principal in my child's elementary school beat one of my children on the back, shoulder, hip and buttocks leaving bad marks. I took photos and reported it to CPS. I complained along with another parent whose child had been beaten similarly by this principal including on his head. NOTHING significant was done to the principal. He was just transferred to the high school where I was glad to hear he was jumped in the bathroom and put out of commission for his sadistic ways, by students there.
Bottom line, part of recovery, imo, is to do everything possible to make amends to any who were offended or hurt wherever possible to do so.
At the same time I do realize that some people that crossed lines in the family were often coerced and felt in the context of the reinforced line of thinking in the Family that they were wrong to resist things.
Some, like Watchman, were in situations where they were forced and hated themselves for what they did, even where forced to.
Still, I am sure there are others that saw a big ole green light for a sick side of themselves that already existed, to prey on youth.
Those pedophiles will never change at least not until or unless something to treat their condition is ever discovered that will alter their warped brains and stop their sick urges. Same with rapists.
I wish those people would be put away in prison and be someone's b___h for the rest of their lives as far as I am concerned.
I don't doubt that some who joined when FFing was in full swing and children were beginning to be sexualized, joined BECAUSE of that.
Still others(and I think it would be few) who joined before sexualization of the Family, might have had those urges and felt those things were wrong and didn't do them in early days because it would have been considered a huge SIN, and they weren't around children, most likely but then felt "liberated" when Berg opened the door.
So, I DO believe in SELF responsibility and accountability.
I don't believe it is okay to just blame it all on Berg or do nothing about it if a person sexually abused someone.
I don't believe that people who joined believing it was a Christian missionary organization and didn't know what Berg was about, weren't introduced to it, didn't have an inclination for any of it, and for those forced to do things while in a camp setting or a setting where there was no way out and felt they were wrong and would drop dead if they didn't do something, I think they deserve help as much as the victims of sexual abuse do.
Please ask more about what I said and what I meant if anything I just wrote seems offensive to you.
