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In Reply to: Re: Time to put one thing to rest posted by Jim LaMattery on December 09, 2005 at 11:13:40:
First read Jo's letter stating what Jim did to her, a pregnant mother, when he was a COG leader. Then read Jim's reply. I could hardly beleive how he shifted blame to the victim.
Wrong Jim
Posted by Jo on December 08, 2005 at 20:49:20
In Reply to: Re: how about - you are not as white as snow posted by Jim LaMattery on December 08, 2005 at 20:34:32:
You and Chen were leaders together when my toddler was sent out of the country without my permission. You were also a leader at Stockholm when I was sent on the road pregnant in the dead of winter to Orebro with a small team of others to pioneer. Because of leadership meetings which you were in, the van taking us was delayed. So we were dropped off around 2 a.m. to "pioneer Orebro" Sweden in the depth of winter. That meant knocking on doors trying to find a place to take shelter.
You remember what is convenient for you. You deny what you do not remember rather than say, "This may have happened, but I don't remember it". You blame everything on Chen when you were there too. You were. Not in the room when she told me, but you two were together, leaders and involved in that decision.
I have said and stand by this, that within the context of the cult people acted differently from how they would act had they not been in. Hate to say it, but you seem to be much the same.
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Re: You make me sick
Posted by Jim LaMattery on December 09, 2005 at 08:29:39
In Reply to: You make me sick posted by Jo on December 08, 2005 at 22:56:57:
Jo-
You are welcome to post all email communication between us since January (the first email you sent to me). I've let you tell me your version of your children being removed from your care and sent to Denmark since that first post, months ago. Why in the world would you have remained in this group when they removed your children from your immediate care? That, in fact, never happened to my children while in TFI.
My ex-wife did many terrible things to my children as well, but I would never have left my children in her, or anyone other "leader"'s care in TFI. She had to kidnap them from me to do what she did. I know that you feel it was mine, or my wife's, or maybe somebody else's fault that your children were "sent out of the country." The reality is that it was your fault for not following them and doing something about it- like leave TFI.
I suggest you reread all of my emails to you since you reintroduced yourself to me in January of this year. You will find that I have tried to sincerely listen to your pain, suffering, and feelings. You have never been able to convince me that what happened to your children was anyone other's fault but your own- you were their mother- period. I have never come out and stated it this way to you in the past. I have tried to be sympathetic to your plight. Now that you seem more willing to attack and accuse me publicly, it is time for me to clearly state what I, and you, have known all along. You were their mother and their care was ultimately your responsibility. As much as I feel for you, as much as what happened to you was unjustified and unfair, I cannot change the fact that you were your children's mother. I harbor no ill-will for your statements online. I wish you the best. I know that one day, all of this will be over, until then, peace.
