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In Reply to: Re: I don't get JoJo posted by Farmer on November 12, 2005 at 01:20:16:
First, yes I posted awhile under my name and then went back to an old handle when "JoJo" came along because of some confusion and Goth88 is not easy to confuse.
Regarding Germany, when I was there in the latter seventies there was some definite FFing going on, widespread. I played guitar, sang in clubs like Go-In and Folk Pub in Berlin and other clubs and restaurants and didn't "FF" so much as be used internally in the family by "brothers". That sort of coerced sharing was going on in the latter seventies, broadly, in Germany. Some women had ministries then of being full time FFer's. They had several "dates" a day at times. Sometimes concentration would be on one big fish. One girl was dating some men in organized crime. It didn't seem to matter as long as they were "contributing" to the funds of the family.
I saw and heard a lot of this back then- in Germany.
There were the New Nation News mags where shiners in litnessing and in FFing were touted. "Shining examples" made the news. People got the letters and there were those reports and diaries that were sent out to everybody in the family incl. Germany about how many fish "loved" in what way, etc. What type of person they were (professional, whatever).
Do you remember those?
I had to service a number of "brothers" in Germany I must say. In Switzerland too. Because of the money raised through singing I did not have to be pressured to do FFing on the outside for much of the time though I was while in Oldenburg. Only while there,(Oldenburg) the VS's said I should go to student bars or crappy places till I lost the weight from having three babies in a row. Aww. There's nothing like the love of Jesus, eh?
Later came the concerted raids in Europe against the family. It was after these raids that I left Oldenburg and went to Berlin. Farmer, I wouldn't doubt if our paths crossed in the family back then.
The night I left was New Years Eve and a "sister" and I were supposed to fly in a private jet somewhere with some Arabs but it was one of those situations where a leader comes up and says "Get packed you are leaving in 15 minutes" and into the van I went...to Berlin. Didn't know I was even going to go there until that night.
I was in Bremen, Braunschweig, Oldenburg, Munich, Berlin and travelled to all the little villages. It would be funny to walk into a bar in Berlin and sit with some people after singing and they would say, "Oh, I am from a small village I am sure you have never heard of..It's called Cloppenburg" and I would say..Yes I have been there.
