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In Reply to: Re: A question for Jojo posted by moonshiner on September 16, 2005 at 17:22:03:
I think I may now have the answer to the question I posed to you regarding your position on TF.
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The fact of the matter is "YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE AND ARE JUST GUESSING OR ASSUMING"! Why do I have to lay out for you what I believe about anything? The fact is I don't have to do anything of the sort.
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For example, you start off this latest post of yours denigrating, some by name, those who post on these boards.
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You are going to have to explain what denigrate means for me I'm afraid. I will say this much that one time I did post after reading a post that said that the TFI was activitely running a prostitution racket in the Gold Coast in Australia. Sorry, but the whole thing was based on total nothing, but hearsay and hyperbole. Now, if you want the authorities to pay attention to you, it has to be presented with facts and real information, and not hearsay. I know we can get all heated up about what we may hope to be true, but in the end it's the facts that get results. How do I know that, well I've have been to court and suffered the concenquences of not having facts, and relying on my feelings and emotions and well, I hope you get the picture.
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I'll say it again as plainly as I can for you. "I HAVE NEVER SEEN OR BEEN IN A HOME OR CITY WHERE SHARING PARTIES OR ACTIVITIES WERE SET UP FOR JETTS AND TEENS TO HAVE SEXUAL ACTIVITY TOGETHER"
I'm not being apologetic about it. It's just what I experienced. I can't speak for other situations, as I wasn't there, didn't hear about it, or for whatever reason. I never went out of my way to enquire if certain cities or countries were actively organising such parties. Why would I if it was something that I personally would not agree with or go along with? Gossip and hearsay and innuendo don't go far with me I'm afraid. If you were in situations where it did happen, I'm keen to hear about it. Give me the facts, please, not just what you heard may have happened or something like that.
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As for my comment about being saddened by what has happened to a lot of the young people who left the TFI, let me explain a bit more. I do not believe that they left because they were systematically sexually abused as you would have me believe. They left because they didn't want to go along with what was happening in the letters, or the endless rules and restrictions on their personal lives. They wanted to be free from restrictions, not get away from sexually abusive shepherds. What they ended up doing with their freedom is what saddened me. Living lives of doing drugs, endless clubbing, maybe even exotic dancers in some cases, and just wasting away. This for me is heartbreaking, and what I was referring to.
I realise that you will make out of what I've said what you want, but I frankly don't really care about that. I don't know you and where you come from or what you're doing with you life now, but I sure do hope it's something that you're happy with and is fulfulling to you.
All the best
