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In Reply to: farmer farmer farmer posted by exmember on January 07, 2005 at 20:09:29:
You have guts, to be that partial.I simply decided, to treat Jules or any SGA for that matter as they wanted to be treated: as adults!!If I have attacked Perry, Acheick & Carol & others at times here, hopefully not in a very insulting, personal way, please pardon me, if I did,.. then
I concluded it’s even fair, to do the same with the SGadults & not only regard the SGAs background & treat them also simply as adults, meaning, I don’t have to wear kidgloves all the time.If they can take all the flak among themselves, foulmouthing, then that seems to be fine,... for us monsters, it’s not & I wish not to be abusive in words, but very decided.I thought,that’s my prerogative.
It’s not long ago that Jules heavily chided BBC for making a “silly remark” about “com’on children”...it took me some seconds to see the trigger...the FG A was addressed as child, the SGA ,her, also...the FG A didn’t protest, she did...of course, that remark can bring up sentiments.We all seem to have our triggers, but if anyone of the SGAs cares to read our posts, we praised them, me included, for how well they have done, academically & everything & it was my firm believe, that they would turn out better than us & I sincerely wished that, honestly.So, that praising happens to be in consistency & heartfelt.I don’t know how many children happen to have MAs, but I thought: of course we think, that they are adults now & do their levelbest, all marvellous.Now I am commanding around? as if I’d liked to command much my own children around...sometimes I do, cause you know, I appreciate help at times...doing things, cause they need to be done...doesn’t come with the rain it seems.So if you have children, you can relate may be.But please paste some quotes, which are so bossy to you...yes, I was/am upset.
First, I like honesty, I like people using screennames, if they are there unmistakingly or should I rather hide under myriads of others, so you won’t find me??You’d prefer that?
It already happened with my post at soapbox & now I thought, that’s the charm...Carol thought Jules meant her, when she meant me,... goodness, we had enough confusion in our life.
Let’s have some courage & be straightforward, to the point.
Some rebuttals have nothing to do with whetherI like somebody.I still think Jules is a wonderful woman, what has that to do with me being upset at some postings of her, doesn’t
take much away of my opinion of her, she’s a champion for the rights of those, who have been misused.I’d term Jules=Jewel...at the same time I hate to continue to be phoney & hypocritical as I used to be in TF or life in general.I hated to offend people’s feelings, even if they said crap & BS IMO.Now I steadily learn to apply, that I can like a person, but not all of it’s thoughts (or feelings!)
Not intending to lecture, but the ad hominem outcry you find quite often at movingon, so I
offer this quote from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
“Merely insulting another person in the middle of otherwise rational discourse does not necessarily constitute an ad hominem fallacy. It must be clear that the purpose of the characterization is to discredit the person offering the argument, and, specifically, to invite others to discount her arguments. In the past, the term ad hominem was sometimes used more literally, to describe an argument that was based on an individual, or to describe any personal attack. But this is not how the meaning of the term is typically introduced in modern logic and rhetoric textbooks, and logicians and rhetoricians are widely agreed that this use is incorrect.”
Even if that’s correct, I’d still prefer, that people refrain from blanket-outbursts, to be specific, who sucks...is that too much to ask? And yeah, I let it out, why sometimes SGAs suck.The discussion on movingon I mentioned, is the following one & maybe you feel like fitting in...I don’t!!
http://www.movingon.org/article.asp?sID=4&Cat=4&ID=2361aren
But you feel I was very offensive, yes?And what about the problem, if you happen to be a certain Crystal, then your life is at stake according to another post at movingon.Well, so much for our wonderful dialogue...we heard, that Karen Zerby’s life & others is worth a....well, we
got used to that.Last night I watched by “chance” “The sleepers” with Robert de Nero &
Brad Pitt etc., well somebody fill me in please, whether that’s facts or fiction...I thought that’s
fiction with some possible facts, don’t know.
Sometimes I simply don’t understand the SGAs ...recently I popped up to make a comment on the bootcamps in the US...for teens, mind you & I’ve seen a Tv-report about it more than a year ago.I had expected some real horror & outcry, since also some death were to be reported,very sad.But all they seem to notice, that it’s about Jamaica etc off the coast, when those camps are right in the US too....well, what, if that happened to be the latest of TF again...why this doublestandard about this wonderful world.(I dislike the world & TF)...I wouldn’t even put it past TF, if they had copied those bootcamps...as they’re such
copyrightinfringers.Where was the respective outcry???
http://www.movingon.org/article.asp?sID=1&Cat=10&ID=2312
All in all I felt it’s over for me to act so “antiauthoritarian”Spockspoiled: “Well, Johnny just demolished a chair.We don’t need it anyway, cost only 500$.Important is, that he could let off steam, when I called him for dinner.I promised him, that I won’t provoke him again.”
You know, your displayed sense of righteousness offends me too.So if I still happen to endure this doublestandard here, than may be I learn to figure
you out...in a positive way.Although I feel at the moment...to flush the toilet.
