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In Reply to: Oh my.... posted by Farmer on October 15, 2004 at 01:36:50:
Acheick, I didn't have such a wonderful day yesterday either & to read, what you "over there" are going through, is disturbing, heartaching...
I am sorry, for the continual trouble you have to endure.My respect first of all, for raising so many children...I always thought woman in TF are really, really great, but really not only there,... I mean the difficulty, to give birth to so many children,.. & some considered once great woman...you know... anyway, you all pulled some big loads.
It's difficult to reply to you...just with my meager words...I wonder, if it helps you, to get "my character" a bit better.I think, I always was fond of doing the opposite of what people, the majority did...if people listened to the top ten in the charts, I rather listened to other music...
4 years ago I was deeply befriended to a Swiss christian Lady, from a somewhat charismatic background, but who never really heard about TF & when she did, she wanted to break off the contact - as too dangerous to her liking, even though I was out,... also, cause she confessed having similar weeknesses, & she didn't want to stumble etc. -
Anyway, at one point we got into the polygamie subject - forgot why, somehow through TF in general? - and I just pulled out divers scriptures- because she argued, how out of it it was - since I couldn't see how the Partriarchs got "rebuked for that"...she saw the danger, of me being still under TF-influence...but frankly, I just wanted to know "God's point of view".If I
was wrong, then I would have learned something from it...well, it ended with her saying, in the beginning, God made Adam o n e wife, Ha...I thought that was really wonderful : )
So in "talking back", it doesn't necessarily mean,
I am now propolygamy, proTF...I want to say, how this & that seems odd, just being looked at it from one angle...it doesn't satisfy me, sometimes...e.g. I said before, nobody stays in any activity, if he doesn’t like it for something & I appreciate Miguel’s honesty, saying, he wasn’t made at the point of a gun, joining or this & that...although some things, which got shared here & elsewhere, were done more under coercion.
Simple me once got into an argument with a very bright lady at movingon...where I made the elefant in the porcelainshop...& I thought, at least she would be thankful for her parents giving birth to her, even if it meant – unfortunately – via the” long turn” of TF...she replied a no in very biological terms...I am of a different opinion, because I think ultimately God gives us this life or we wouldn’t be here, plus I think He has a design or plan, although it looks so muddled up at times.
So if 100 means maximum score, than this SGA-woman gave a 0 for the worthyness of TF, the way I understood it...your score will be same or marginally different, I don’t know...
See, I am thankful, having found Jesus...would have been great, to have found Him in a different way, IMO...but then again there is this odd & wonderful Romans 8:28 verse...
How could you or your son now view that?Is it too early, to make assessments?...one thing is, I believe it pays to read the Bible & apply it as much as possible – in fundamental churches, I don’t think I would get opposition here – so it should be true in your family too or it wouldn’t be God’s word ?!I think a very delicate part is, to talk with the precious SGApeople, the
own children, in such depth from heart to heart, that hopefully a forgiveness (asking forgiveness & granting it) takes place.Like an appreciated evangelist said, you do this step of faith ( it says to forgive) & then sooner or later the emotion/healing comes along, but he added for deeper, longstanding wounds, you’d have to do more (I am getting in the habit though, to immediately to forgive, before my “hearttrouble” continues to grow)
Where do you stand there in your family?Some of my big disappointments come from big hopes or some false grandeur...I wanted something & I couldn’t or shouldn’t...& for us FGs it’s “sad”, because some “possibilities” (job etc.) seem difficult now...agewise etc. however, life can still be meaningful & fulfilling...what are there the main obstacles in your son’s life??
