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Rotten Fruit

Posted by Joseph on April 04, 2004 at 08:36:35

(Note: This was originally posted on NDN Bible Search and was deleted, because the poster is banned from NDN. However, I thought it was important to document this material that claims to come from Maria and Peter regarding a recent poll taken at Movingon.org)

29. (Mama:) I'm going to share with you a few
examples of things that some of the apostates are
saying so that you can see more clearly what the Lord
just talked about in the above message. Now remember,
I'm talking about apostates here--those who are
actively fighting the Family. I'm not talking about
every former member, as most former members don't fall
into the category of apostates. Some of these
apostates no longer even consider themselves
Christians. They've lost all faith. They have become
reprobate, vicious, hateful, bitter, and have even
talked about violence against us in some cases.
They're not just against the Family; they're anti-God
and against all that He stands for, and the Enemy is
trying to use them to attempt to destroy the Family,
whose main and express mission is to win souls.

30. The results of a recent poll on a Web site
for former Family members, tallying the votes of 135
participants, showed that only 29.63% still consider
themselves Christians. 31.11% were agnostic, and
39.26% were atheist, Buddhist, pagan, undecided, or
other.

(Excerpts from ex-members:)

I don't discard Christianity (and all religions
for that matter) because of the Family. That would be
too simplistic and irrational; truth and fact are not
based on emotionalism. I reject religion because it is
false, irrational and otiose. … We've heard enough of
this rubbish and don't care to hear anymore.

I don't personally believe in religion, and as
far as God goes, I'm an agnostic.

I just wonder why do some people feel it's a
bad thing to reject religion? Is it really that bad
that people decide that they will no longer believe in
fables and questionable ancient writings found in the
Bible and other religious books?

I turned from Christianity, which triggered so
many unpleasant memories‚ to a more holistic and
mystical type of spirituality. Instead of cracking my
Bible‚ I read tarot cards.

A lot of ex-members are no longer Christians of
any kind. Some are all-out atheists. Others are still
deciding, and some don't care, and yet there's also
those who still wake up and cross themselves before
they take a smoke. … I don't care for or about
religion of any sort and it's not in my train of
thought. I'm not an atheist; I just couldn't care less
for living a religious lifestyle … my opinion is that
it's totally normal to throw out the baby with the
bathwater.

Now when I see a Bible, I throw it away! All it
brings me is bad memories!

Prepare yourselves [the Family] for a future of
fighting for your very survival as an organization.
The tidal wave will grow. You will be washed away.

If I could, I would rid the world of all those
that started and had any part in [the Family].

The Family is heading towards a full-on
confrontation with their victimized generation. And if
we have our way, we will bring the Family to its
knees. … [Mama, Peter] and many others must (and
hopefully will) be brought to task for their crimes.

31. (Mama:) That's just a small sampling of the
words and attitudes of those who've drifted so far
from the faith that they've discarded it in many
cases, and have even turned to fight us in some cases.
So when you hear things from folks like these,
consider the source, and be sure to ask the Lord about
it. Is it sowing love or hatred, peace or discontent,
unity or division, reconciliation or bitterness? By
their fruits you shall know them.