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In Reply to: Re: Is this some kind of joke? posted by Ancaru on January 20, 2004 at 12:15:46:
I guess you didn't hear me the first and second time. But no one around these posts has been on a "dismantling" LBP or doing any exposes or anything of the sort.
Everytime you say things like "you first generation former members", the implication is negative catergorization. It is offensive in the same manner that African Americans do not like to hear the phrase "you people" even though the person using it may not intend it towards a race.
The issue is, in part, FREE SPEECH. I do not feel intimidated by your anger. I do not feel any "collective guilt" for what happened to you or any other SGs. I have dealt with the guilt that IS mine on any issues that there are with my own family. That is healthy guilt. Toxic guilt is to obsess and flail myself for all the "What if's" and "Why didn't I"'s when I was very abused myself, very under the influence of a systematically controlled and group who taught that to not believe them was to be rejected by God. I consider myself very fortunate to have gotten out when I did and to not have been in a home where certain abuses were occurring and then being coerced into participating. Sure there are individuals that did not need coercion. That is not what I am talking about though.
When it comes to the family and what it teaches and promotes (like LJR for example) I don't care WHAT generation is practicing it, if they are an adult it is very spiritually abusive. In fact the whole control and dominance of the family by a crazy person with very strange doctrines and practices is abusive all by itself. Does that mean that I am on a dismantling mission from God when it comes to Perm? NO. Hell, even if they were family and were a younger generation initiative working with street kids like they do, in that situation, I would compare that to handing out sterile syringes to drug addicts. You realize some may never stop the addiction but you are saving lives by at least providing that.
No I wouldn't want to see the perm kids out on the street. That being said, I sure don't mind dropping the "Perm" subject. But I wouldn't mind dialoguing some more about intergenerational issues if you ever cared to. I am not
But what FGs talk about, or any G for that matter should not be restricted beyond the bounds of the guidelines of the respective boards.
What bugged me personally about the first round on Loves Bridge, is that there was info about many different Family outlets and tools like "Cherub Wings". People were working to expose different family projects that were largely fronted charities or fund raisers for the parasitical group. As ex members, it is within our rights to discuss opinions about all that.
Perhaps you can seperate the current discussion (which was on its way to dying out before you posted to it again. and until now I am posting about it again)from the former. The former had some legitimate complaints regarding people's names being used and some personal assumed info about them or something which I agree was very inappropriate to post or write in a letter to anyone (if that was done). I was not clear on all that.
By the way, the same amount of energy and even moreso has been focused on some of the other projects.
Now, if you want to 'splode on me some more, please do. Because maybe, just maybe, we will both learn something in the course of it.
