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In Reply to: Re: Who needs a gun? posted by jo on December 13, 2003 at 20:21:37:
Hey Jo,
(wow, did that ring a bell? :)
By all means, please say the unpopular. We need to explore different views, even controversial ones.
In fact, I'll join you in doing that right now.
About this statement I made "of course we were the ones that went and surrendered ourselves to false shepherds.."
The way I see it is this, if I had been listening to my higher self, my true inner voice, my still quiet voice, I might never have let myself join. I believe that we all have that voice inside us. Some people call it "conscience," or "instinct," or "God." There would have been "checks in the spirit" (don't shoot me for using F. terminology, in this case it works against them!) that something is wrong with the picture. I believe that we are all facilitated with such direct connections to our inner souls/minds, and we would have to make a decision to drown out that voice.
This voice is there, when we meet a bad girlfriend/boyfriend, or when we go to a party with bad company, or when we put ourselves in any situation where it's going to be bad for us.
It could be possible that we are in a bad state spiritually, to the point we are confused, and unaware of what is true and what is not, and that vulnerability was exploited when we were recruited. It could also be possible that we are undeveloped in that area, and not used to listening to our inner voices, but I believe it is always there, perhaps from when we were born.
Still, I say "I might never have let myself join" if I had listened to my inner voice, because this whole idea goes even deeper.
Often, we sub-consciously or spiritually make decisions that go against our better judgement or against our inner voice/conscience/instinct/spirit, so that we can learn from them, or test/confirm/verify that our inner voice is true/reliable. It is quite possible that when joining, each of us "knew" we were getting ourselves into something that was going to be bad, but went ahead anyway, to ride it out and see. Unfortunately, along the way, we put ourselves in a position where our inner voice was drowned out more and more and replaced by the control mechanisms of the F. We put ourselves in a situation where the very thing that could help us leave, our voice/conscience/better judgement/spirit was severely weakened and replaced/possessed/captured by the F. Hence "spiritual authority."
Do I think we were tricked? Hell YES! But at some point, we have to take responsibility for our actions and decisions, and this is only possible in my mind, if we understand it this way. I do believe we are responsible for joining and surrendering our souls, even if that surrender was obtained through the F's deceit and manipulation and foolishness on our part.
It's a known fact that when your under the influence of alcohol, your judgement breaks down. You believe you're sober when you're not. You can get to a point where you believe there's nothing wrong with your driving or reflexes, and it's a low probability there will be any cops around. Yet if we have an accident and run over someone in these conditions, DUI is DUI, manslaughter is manslaughter, and you're never gonna talk your way out of that.
By the same token, we were under the influence. In this case under the influence of the cult. Our minds/souls/judgement/inner voice were so severely under the influence that we thought it was fine to surrender ourselves. We made bad decisions. Nevertheless, it was only "we" that could make that decision. Nobody could make it for us.
And so on and so on.
