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In Reply to: Thoughts on Jules' advice? posted by Reposter on December 10, 2003 at 11:36:52:
Jules said something about most people here have skeletons in their closet.
I don't know that that's true for me in regards to TF.
I have no crime record other than driving without a valid license. (It had expired and I forgot to renew it.)
The only SGs I owe apologies to are my own children because of stupid ideas I pcked up from TF about life in general. I never hit or yelled at or neglected any other children, although I did that and I am aware some of what I did to my own children could be called emotional neglect, and even that I did that even after leaving TF. (But this is something many parents are guilty of and constantly learning to improve on till the day they die, even those who never joined TF.)
My children tell me they are satisfied with my acknowledgent my mistakes and my apologies, and they admire me for doing so much despite the obstacles, and for making something out of myself and them when we came out of TF with nothing.
I witnessed spankings and yellings (affectionately called "bawling out" in TF), and I did step in to intervene when it was out of hand. I took sometimes flak for that.
I know better now about what constitutes child abuse, but back then I thought at most it was a cultural thing.
I left before most of the big bad stuff including victor camps happened.
Am I collectively gulty?
Do you Jules, or other SGs consider me collectively guilty?
I hold myself guilty of being naive enough to be part of a group that did such horrible things. But I left with my children almost 2 decades ago, and I didn't know most of the abuse happened until 2 years ago from reading the boards. At first I actually started defedning TF and putting down these accusations in the beginning as probable exaggerations, just because I never personally saw them. I quickly changed my mind when people testified about what actually did happen and filled me in.
Soon after, moving on started up, and there was a flood of new information for me.
I know what I think of me, and my conscience is clear. What I am wondering is if SGs, especially those that have posted here tink I am colelctively gilty and should make ammends.