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Letter from Abel & Mercy (this post is long)

Posted by Jewlz on September 01, 2003 at 17:54:12

The reason I have put up these personal emails is to emphasise a couple of things, and unfortunately I cannot fairly post these words without putting the whole thing up. So sorry about having to post the whole email - a lot of it is unimportant & boring stuff.

The paragraph that refers to me & my “revenge” of Pete & legal action (which incidentally was never ever mentioned – even on the boards). Would of course prompt a reply from me. Who wouldn’t! That is also below.

This email particularly the bit about paedophilia. does not make any sense whatsoever. Its not even the “cut & paste” stock standard crap but this answer from Abel is more than that - It really doesn’t make sense. And as usual typical robot Family clone Abel tries to “throw” off by blaming someone else & someone on the MovingOn website no less. At the end of the day these people are still in TF believe in everything that have been taught & deny the fact that there are people hurting & children suffering – that’s what makes me so mad. So self righteous & cold hearted.


EMAIL WRITTEN TO ABEL & MERCY BY JUNIPER (Susan)

Hi Paul (Abel)

Do you know that Pete forged passports, kidnapped Steven and that my mother had to mortgage her house to get him back? Do you know that it took 20 years for Julie to recover from the trauma that she suffered (considering the short time she was in the family) and she is still scarred? I’m sure everyone knows what Pete did. Do you think kidnapping a baby is OK?

Paul do you know that people are still suffering because of the Family and their teachings. I am glad that you treat your children so well but others have not. Do you deny the Victor Camps? I know you have to defend the family and their teachings because your whole life is invested in it but having educated now I cant believe that anyone can swallow it anymore. It is so absurd and totally based on fear.

I was so scared after I left that I thought God would punish me but to be honest I was prepared to take my chances with that than live another day in the macho hell that was the Family for me. Poor Jeff has realized that he has lived a lie for most of his life, not to mention the physical abuse I suffered from this wonderful? (weak) man while we were in the Family. That is over for me now & I can forgive him for it but never forget. As for Dad & Maria – honestly I find it hard to believe that you cannot see the truth about them and the other creeps that are in charge now. You can do what you like and if you want to waste your life that’s up to you. I just think its so sad. If there is anything I can to help anyone who leaves I will do what I can.


EMAIL REPLY FROM ABEL & MERCY (Paul & Joy) BY ABEL

Hi Susan

We our move has taken longer than I expected so sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to you.

Joy (Mercy) has good remembrances of her time with ou as well and I hope it will work out for her to get some time to send you a note.

You asked if I mind you being honest about how you feel. Well, I don’t mind that but I hope you don’t mind me saying that I feel that you know very little about me or about Joy over the last 21 years of our lives, and yet you expect the worst of us. You say this and that good about Joy for example, but then suppose that we are callous, indifferent to suffering, narrow minded, (and though you don’t say so) by inference soul-less and faceless “cultists” who are wasting our lives. On the other hand, Susan, I am not critiscing how you live your life or putting you in a box or presupposing your position on different matters.

Take what you’ve written about anti-semitism for example. You are positive The Family is anti-semetic by the sound of what you’ve written. But in Melbourne during the court case down there our, our legal team was mainly jewish – the solicitor was a Zionist, the qc was a secular jew, the barrister was a religious jew. We knew the antisemetic issue would come up, so we pulled out some of dads extreme blasts at Israel (no doubt some of those compiled on the movingon website) and explained that these writings would likely come up in case and we wanted them to know that so they could make a choice about whether they would defend us. We told them that we were happy for them to represent us but that we would understand if they dropped us. They stayed on and we had a very friendly relationship with them. Their response to us was that they know what anti-semitism is and our acceptance of them showed that we weren’t antisemetic. You will know that anti-semetic people have nothing to do with jews and have only hatred for them but we treated them no differently than anyone else.

About paedophilia. After a TV show where we were presented as being paedophiles, we had a few interested calls by people who turned out to be paedophiles. We didn’t know that at the time but we took our usual care to watch over our children and at the slightest hint of their interest in our kids, we ceased contact with them. This has always been our attitude towards paedophiles - even a young ex member on the movingon website shared in his story of being kicked out. Gavin says he was kicked out for messing around with children in a family home and is on the movingon website wanting to contact people who are like minded.

Regarding Pete & the way things have gone with Stephen and how it all came about. It seems to me that Julie is pushing hard to take revenge and I don’t think there’s anything I can say that will change that, I wish I could because as I said in an earlier email, there are so many nasty and complicated marriage breakups that lead to all sorts of upsets and this what I believe is the root of this trouble. I don’t know enough about what happened to offer any worthwhile comment as far as Pete's or her actions. I wouldn’t have thought that after so long a time there would be grounds for taking legal action – I thought there would be some sort of statute of limitation. But if she is pursuing it, no doubt she would have legal advice that tells her otherwise. Having been through a long and painful legal case against DOCS, and having seen friends of mine (not in the family) in a number of other family court cases, my experience is that when it comes to marriage breakdowns and custody battles that wind up in court, everyone loses.
That’s fine about Jeff – I guess I shouldn’t have asked you. I can get his email address elsewhere. But why would you think we would try to influence him to come back to the family? He was/is a friend of ours but we don’t have a desire to see him back in the family when he doesn’t want that. Surely after what you said your kids missed by not being in contact with Jeff, you would understand what it might mean to our to be able to write a note to him to say they appreciated the time they had with him. Perhaps that would be just the encouragement & healing balm he needs at this time.