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In Reply to: Sam: Naive is too kind posted by archivist on August 21, 2003 at 23:19:15:
Sam, I know you do some good stuff, but I think you are more than naive.
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Sam:Can you tell me why you think I am naive?
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For years you have consistantly demonstrated a callous and reckless disregard for people's welfare and ethical issues.
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Sam: Can you give me some examples of disregard for people's welfare and ethical issues? Why don't you give me a chance to give you my defence on specific cases?
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You publish private emails on the Internet,
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Sam: Why is that so different from quoting. Anybody who has read my newsletters know that I quote extensively. I do that to be accurate. Some quotes are loner than e-mails I have quoted.
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you print hearsay accusations without verifying them,
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Sam: I can't possibly verify averything. But if it confirms something that is already known and established I don't see any problem with presenting a confirming fact and I have made statements along the lines of "I don't know how true this is, etc. etc." In fact if you know anyting about me, I am very timit and careful when I say something and I always go out of my way to qualify things, I do that all the time to the point of being afraid to sound too unsure of myself. I do that all the time. Did you pick any of that up in my writings or posts?
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you tell us that individuals should be criminally charged while professing not to know much about the law.
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Sam Ajemian: Do I have to have a law degree to say that those who abused children in the Family should be punished for their crimes?
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You're an embarrasment to yourself.
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Sam Ajemian: I am very proud of the little good I have done in exposing the Family. I am sorry I have not done more to arrest the spread of this cancer. If you want to know what I am embarassed about is that I have not done more. I thing we the ex-members including myself are an embarassments to ourselves for being as weak as we are. I think that we are going to be looked upon as the joke of history as far as making any difference in this fight. In that context I am less of an embarassment that others including maybe yourself. What have you done along those lines?
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I find it hard to believe that you successfully completed any post-secondary education, let alone a doctorate.
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Sam. My education has little to do with anything. All I do comes from my Christian convictions, very little has to do with what I may have learned in school. It all comes from the heart.
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Didn't you learn anything about responsible and ethical research in your studies?
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Sam: The reason I quote so extensively in my writings is because I am so very concerned about being ethical, fair and honest.
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I consistantly disregard most of what you say unless it is verified by an independent credible source. You're a loose cannon.
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Sam: Emply words. Give me examples, specific cases, etc.
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Why don't you tone down the rhetoric and your shoot-from-the-hip accusations and pledge not to make statements that cannot be in some way verified?
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Sam. Go through all my newsletters that are now available on the internet. Give me few examples of cases where I use empty rhetoric, shoot-from-the-hip accusations and statements that I cannot in some way verify.
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Sam: I know in my own heart that I struggle imensely about how to make my writings as accurate and fair. I am ready to receive constractive critisism. But your post is just an attack. That makes me wonder, what got you so upset. Maybe you are a member, or you left the group recently, or maybe you have left long ago but have done some of the horrible things that we are discussing here. I don't know who you are. Can you tell me point blank that you have never touched a minor sexually or abused a minor physically. In all these years I have been around I honestly don't remember any post like yours. On the other hand I have received many many positive comments for my part in stopping the child abuse in the Family. I can honestly say that I have played a part (though a small one) in stopping the molestation of kids in the Family. If I don't do anything else and I die tomorrow I can say that my life as counted in some small way in this respect. I can go on and on, but I'll stop here.
Sam Ajemian
ps. One big minus on the internet is that you have no idea who you are talking to. You know a lot about me, I know nothing about you. It is frustrating because I may be able to understand more of where you are coming from if I knew who you are. You are always invited to meet with me in person or we can talk on the phone or by e-mail.
