Goth, hope it's OK I repose you here

....but I found this post by you WAY down on the "Crossfire" board. Nearly got lost and it's so good. Texas Ray wrote you:

Wow! If you suffered all that as an SGA I can certainly understand your anger towards it all. If there's any way to do so I think you should prosecute the bastards?

Your response really touched me:

thanks Texas Ray, but I am not an SGA. i was a FGA that joined just after turning 18. I had 3 kids by the time I was 22. I think as a woman in the f., depending on where you were, experiences varied as to what kind of things a woman in the f. experienced. I think I suffered a lot less than many. But I also had a lot of abuse from my family of origin. I left them on my 18th birthday as my present to myself. I had a lot of bad experiences for the short time in between, and then went into the family. I didn't leave until I was thirty. If it weren't for past abuses and scar tissue, I probably would've had many more kids.

Also, because I could sing and bring in good money, I was spared from as much FFing as others. Most of what happened to me was within the f. with the "brethern". Including the guy I was put together with suddenly. So I had very many negative experiences in the f. I just want to validate all that have had such. And the anger anyone may be feeling that has had such. Being attacked for being angry and calling Berg a child-molesting incestuous pedophile, rapist and sociopath is not an opinion. It is a verifiable fact.

I also know that many men (and women) suffered via litnessing revolution, being dealt with in so many different ways. Being rejected, being sent to homes with a specialty for dealing with you. I was in such a home in Sorunda, Sweden. It was a "selah" home. It was rather small and myself and a few other families were sent there. It was called a "problem parent" home. We even had a chart with a picture of a bus and were given "bloopers" for the tiniest of infractions. We were sent, with kids, out hitchhiking to different towns each day with litnessing quotas. Then we were to hitchhike back.

In Germany, I was busted to "babes status" and we were given babes classes and endless degrading chores. Mine was taking buckets full of doo-doo diapers and rinsing them out by hand in the toilet stalls at Essen. There were purging sessions there regularly, which were supposed to be a thing of the past. I was one time awakened around 2 am to be dealt with by a panel of elders. A few weeks prior I had asked my "mate" to hold our first baby.

Wanna know my sin? I shouldn't have bothered him with my crap because he was in charge of the physical aspects of the home. He would report me to leadership and I got dealt with. I could go on and on but I won't. I just want to validate the suffering of all, and I hate when people post pro-berg stuff or say "forget it", etc. I am just recently at a point to be angry about it. People sometimes die from holding in what needs to be let out. Thanks for your support. (I left out sexual abuse an rape details, because I don't think anyone here would negate that those things happened. Minimize, yes, but negate, no.)

I think there should be a class action lawsuit from any and all that could go against the abuses of the family. I have said before that if the tree were chopped down, then maybe the adults and children inside would have to start thinking critically, and though it would be a very hard time for them, I think that in looking back they could adjust, with assistance, and go on with their lives. If someone is a missionary and has what it takes, they can continue on if they want.

Hell, the family never supported the people in the field very much anyway. It would be an opportunity to re evaluate life, many parents, I know, want their kids to have education and choices that they don't have in the f. Many adults want that too! Those are thoughts, when in the f., that are "of the devil". The tree to me is the top leadership. Like the whole Koresh thing, they could have gotten Koresh and a few key leaders and spared the rest. Then while the top leaders are sitting in jail for lengthy prison sentences, they could have time and space to think things over, and maybe realize the results of continuing this stuff. And they wouldn't be kings and queens in the joint! Anyway, TR, thanks for your post.