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In Reply to: Re: sex with children, gay and heterosexuals and celibacy posted by marina on June 16, 2002 at 09:55:42:
enlightening stats, I say, assuming they are not highly underrated in all given instances. My guess is the percentage of UNREPORTED crimes is most likely MUCH higher. At any rate, your point that all (inclusive of the married) commit such crimes, is significant.
As for the FEAR and CONTROL factor, which aids compliance, do you think Berg's Excommunication threat TOPPED this?
BEING DAMNED TO HELL IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT
Please look at the picture, above, once again. You can see a young woman depicted as exceedingly distraught and begging the priest for mercy. She has just been threatened with excommunication, a common threat for a predatory priest. The main reason she is so distraught is likely because she remembers well the Church teaching on Hell and damnation.
To illustrate how effective this fear conditioning is in the Catholic Church, let us reprint an Catholic Excommunication for you, word for word, so you may see for yourself what is likely going through this young girl's mind. Ex-priest Fresenborg explains how this threat of Excommunication is repeatedly turned against a young girl who is resisting the sexual appetite of the priest.
Printing this Excommunication word for word "... will further go to show the reader the vileness of this damnable creed, and which will also go to convince the reader what fear the followers of Catholicism have of the priestcraft, which will more fully convince you that timid, unsuspecting woman, who has been brought up to believe in the paganism of Catholicism, can be easily led to yield to the lustful desires of the priestcraft, for fear that by refusing his request that he would pronounce this terrible curse upon her, which she has been taught would forever damn her eternal soul."
"By the authority of God Almighty, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, and the undefiled Virgin Mary, mother and patroness of our Savior, and all of the Celestial Virtues, Angels, Archangels, Thrones, Dominions, Powers, Cherubim and Seraphim, and of all the Apostles and Evangelists, of the Holy Innocents, who in the sight of the Holy Lamb are found worthy to sing the new songs of all the Holy Martyrs and Holy Confessors, and of all the Holy Virgins, and of all the Saints, together with the Holy Elect of God, may he, Bernard Fresenborg, be damned!
"We excommunicate and anathematize him from the threshold of the Holy Church of God Almighty. We sequester him, that he may be tormented, disposed, and be delivered over with Dathan and Abiram, and with those who say unto the Lord, 'Depart from us, we desire none of thy ways;' as a fire is quenched with water, so let the light of him be put out for ever more, unless it shall repent him and make satisfaction!
"May the Father, who creates man, curse him!
"May the Son, who suffered for us, curse him!
"May the Holy Ghost, who is poured out in baptism, curse him!
"May the Holy Cross, which Christ for our salvation, triumphing over his enemies, ascended, curse him!
"May the Holy Mary, ever Virgin and the Mother of God, curse him!
"May St. Michael, the Advocate of the Holy Souls, curse him!
"May all the Angels, Principalities and Powers, and all Heavenly Armies curse him!
"May the glorious band of the Patriarchs and Prophets curse him!
"May St. John the Precursor, and St. John the Baptist, and St. Peter, and St. Paul, and St. Andrew, and all other of Christ's Apostles together, curse him!
"And may the rest of the Disciples and Evangelists, who by their preaching converted the universe, and the holy and wonderful company of Martyrs and Confessors, who by their works are found pleasing to God Almighty; may the holy choir of the Holy Virgin, who, for the honor of Christ, have despised the things of the world, damn him!
"May all the Saints from the beginning of the world to everlasting ages who are found to be beloved of God, damn him!
"May he be damned wherever he be, whether in the house or in the alley, in the woods or in the water, or in the church!
"May he be cursed in living and dying!
"May he be cursed in eating and drinking, in being hungry, in being thirsty, in fasting and sleeping, in slumbering, and in sitting, in living, in working, in resting, and.....and in blood-letting!
"May he be cursed in all the faculties of his body!
"May he be cursed inwardly and outwardly!
"May he be cursed in his hair; cursed be he in his brains and his vertex, in his temples, in his eyebrows, in his cheeks, in his jaw bones, in his nostrils, in his teeth and grinders, in his lips, in his shoulders, in his arms, in his fingers!
"May he be damned in his mouth, in his breast, in his heart, and appurtenances, down to the very stomach!
"May he be cursed in his .....and his ...........in his thighs, in his..........and his ........... and in his knees, and his legs, and his feet, and toe-nails!
"May he be cursed in all his joints and articulations of the members; from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet may there be no soundness!
"May the Son of the living God, with all the glory of His majesty, curse him!
"And may Heaven, with all the powers that move therein, rise up against him, and curse and damn him, unless he repent and make satisfaction! Amen! So be it! Be it so! Amen! Amen! Amen!" [Page 249-251]
