Posted by kinda gentler on February 12, 2004 at 14:34:25
In Reply to: Re: Organized abuse & Ritual abuse: What do you think? posted by susie on February 11, 2004 at 18:40:14:
I am going to step out on a limb here and say that I believe that Michael Jackson is a pedophile. One major rationalization that people use to say that he is NOT is to say that "Why would he risk everything he has after he got out of the first incident if he was doing that with them?" Another is that it is not uncommon for a pedophile to have some children that they do not abuse. Usually not ones that are their general preference.
Experts explain that it is "in his wiring" to do it, and those same experts do not see that as an excuse for crimes committed. I have never seen one that is sorry for more than getting caught. I don't doubt that childhood abuse plays a part in getting "wires crossed". Just like if a child comes from a violent home and is constantly on alert and fearing for their lives off and on is likely to grow up with anxiety disorders, depression, etc.
I have a biological brother that is absolutely antisocial. Since he was a child he was that way. He had no conscience or regard for harm he did to anyone else and looked at life like a game where you get everything you can for yourself, however you can. He was quite sadistic too. So was my father. Both liked to hurt animals. With my brother, the only time you would see him get really really angry was if something got between him and something he wanted. He was a lot like that little girl in the movie "The Bad Seed". He still is, only he hasn't murdered anyone (that I know of anyway.) THAT was in his wiring.
What is unique about the family is that people that were attracted to it as FGs when it was in it's early days, were people that were largely NOT people that would consider pedophilia, and many balked at the idea, and at least just prior to my leaving, I did not know anyone in Europe who had done it, but had heard of some that did after being coerced in Bergs "Thru the Looking Glass" and "Clockwork Orange" world. Then, since reading articles, after leaving, I have realized that there were some who were actively engaging in it, even after limitations were set on it for P.R.'s (and the Family's survival)sake.
I remember meeting "Sara Davidito" from the day she joined. From what i remember she was about three months from graduating from college when the family hooked her in via campus witnessing. She was a very animated person and real sweet, believe it or not. I knew her also at Zion as "Prisca" and she was on her way to being groomed for leadership purposes. Then I did not see her for years. When I saw her again was when I was in the Canary Islands and she and "Ready" were regional sheps. over Spain incl. the Canaries, and Portugal too I think. She was very different by then, very hard edged "sold-out" and harsh. It seems the closer people got to the top, the more they were that way. We were dealt with at different times and then shipped back to Scandinavia. That was probably when FFing was starting on Tenerife, (We were based on Grand Canary Island) but it was not known at the time by rank and file, incl. us.
I would never have imagined her as doing the things she did under Berg and in his household. Had she not joined the family, she would surely have had some degree, been an average citizen and well respected and liked. Years of family conditioning and indoctrination formed that monster. Sexual abuse was not the only abuse. It was just one of the hundreds or more of tools that Berg used to manipulate and to divorce us from "the real world".
Maria is a major perp, too, because she had the chance to make some serious changes after Berg died. She did, but she did so in the sense of adding even more manipulations. Now She, "Dad", "Jesus" and whoever else all consult together and agree on whatever she thinks and lays it out as fact. She initiated the LJR from what I understand. I think one reason she stayed up there with Berg from the beginning was the fact that she was really twisted herself in her ambitions and her eagerness to engage in a relationship with him, and in FFing, etc.
Well this is getting long, but when I talk about perps that have that in their "nature", I will assure you that: 1. I am not a pedophile and have never engaged in any activity of that kind and it disgusts me to say the least. I was a victim of child molestation as a child and understand the damage and the anger it causes.
and 2. The top leaders of the family that initiate and enforce this and other atrocious abuses, deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, if it ever catches up with them.
The family leaders don't mind sacrificing a few of it's lower member as scapegoats for the perversions and problems that exist within it. Or even some more major leaders that have perpetrated. But the real justice will be when and if the head of the beast ever rolls.
Any other kind of justice for the victims of the family, of any generation, is to get therapy, and any assistance they can to get their lives together and get on with living in spite of the beast. And for those who choose to, to pursue their personal abusers.