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Posted by Commentator on November 14, 2006 at 20:52:51

In Reply to: Re: Really?.....longish post posted by another answer on November 14, 2006 at 14:37:27:

I'm restating that after 'Ban the Bomb' came out, all we did was stop emphasizing sharing as an after hours program activity at these 3 day GAFs and NAFs. It still happened at smaller fellowships and it still happened when someone had the 'faith for it' to share with someone outside from another home.

Sometimes 'outside the home' was just a technicality. If you had a home with a lot of transient visitors, members visited and shared sexually. It never stopped. I was there. I saw it. I took part in it. I can testify that this took place way past 1983. It even happened in stricter countries where members were more fanatic about obeying the Mo Letters to the tee.

You said that if something was DO it can't be PR spin? I am amazed at your typical TF PR definition of what 'PR spin' is, that it is decided by official categories of GP or DO listings. We as insiders know that PR spin can include any retroactive rewriting of history, which TF does habitually, including but not limited to topics covered in DO or BAR publications. Take the 'we banned child-adult sex in 1986' lie for example: TF did not do anything about child-adult sex until 1988. Even after they 'did something about it' they did not say it was wrong, but to the contrary. Zerby wrote in Summit Jewels 93 that child-adult sex is not intrinsically wrong:

"This [sexual contact between adults and minors]is about the only subject where we're really going along with the System, we're playing along with them, we're acting like we believe what we did was wrong, because we have changed, and stopped doing it."

The same July, 1991 Mo Letter you quote, "QUESTIONS & ANSWERS ON SEX, FREEDOMS & RELATIONSHIPS!" continues to say the following:

"There was--& is--absolutely nothing wrong with the freedoms that the Lord gave us!
"16. The Lord showed Grandpa that the Scripture, 'All things are lawful unto us' (1Cor.6:12), literally means exactly what it says; that there are no exceptions, all things indeed are lawful for the believers in Jesus who are motivated by love. In a revelation, the Lord showed Grandpa that these 'all things' included sexual sharing."

In other words, the option was/is there.




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